This section of Conversations with Ishmael Reed, is interesting to read because he responds to how some critics interpreted his book Mumbo Jumbo, and he also comments on how he sees 1920s America parallel to current America.
"The only thing I can conclude is that my book caused these critics to hallucinate"And if that quote doesn't get you reading that interview, I don't know what will.
Here is another interview that delves into Reed's ideas on writing and politics. From everything I've seen so far, Reed is a very opinionated person who is not afraid to have his opinion made known.
"I'm not some pathetic token standing before the settler cultural committee pleading 'Choose me. Choose me.' The kind of "minority" literature promoted by the white academic establishment, which controls what students read, includes images and plots that are no different from the kind of stereotypes we get on TV. These people don't know how much their tokens are despised in their own communities. My interest in African religion in this hemisphere is the same as the enthusiasm the Irish writers had toward a Celtic revival, or contemporary Asian American writers have in texts written in Kanji, or Hispanic writers in Aztec, or Toltec. Writers try to renew precolonial traditions all over the world. "I found a JSTOR article where Reed talks about minstrelsy, post-modernism, and modernism and much more, of course. It's rather long to read, but interesting nonetheless.
I talked in the Nickel Review about technology, and I said in 1967 that technology would be the black writer's boon. Nam June Paik has said that Rock and Roll is the U.S.'s greatest export, and Hip Hop, Rap and other manifestations of black culture, or black technology, are being marketed all over the world for billions of dollars,very little of which is being seen by its creators. Think also of how black technology influences post-modernism, Ron Sukenick's experiments with Voodoo, the performance art of Laurie Anderson, Twyla Tharp, Heavy Metal, the downtown New York scene; how Jazz influenced people like Jackson Pollock. With software publishing and new high tech video technology we will go to town. With video we can leap beyond the racist film distribution networks, right into the living room
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I just don't think that I've been influenced all that much by modernism. I've been interested in the forms they use, the discontinuity, but many years ago I discovered that these ideas were not originated by modernists. I think that avantgarde movements tend to take themselves too seriously and believe that they are originating forms which are, in fact, ancient.And finally on page 10 of Sharon Jesse's essay Ishmael Reed's Multi-Culture: The Production of Cultural Perspective, she references an interview where Reed gives his motivation for writing historical history. (I couldn't find the actual book with the real interview online, so this'll have to do. If you wanted to know more I guess you could always check out the book from the library.)
In an interview with John O'Brien, Reed says that he and other minority artists "aim" their questioning at "those who supply the nation with its mind... the people involved in culture," but that what he and other artists want is "to sabotage history" so that the "Historical Establishment" "won't know whether we're serious or whether we are writing fiction... Always keep them guessing"---
Reed has also written many opinion articles for the New York Times and a journalism website called Counterpunch. Although they don't have much to do with Mumbo Jumbo, these articles can give us insight as to how he thinks about things. And, he does have his own website where you can find even more information if you're still looking for it at this point.
I think Reed just likes complaining and stirring up controversy for its own sake. I don't think he actually holds the opinions that his books do, he just wants to provoke people. I mean, he is an intelligent guy, way to intelligent to actually be making some of the claims he makes in his books. I think there is a distance between his actually self and the narrator who is writing the book
ReplyDeleteI agree that there's no reason to suppose, for example, that Reed's personal views are literally the same as PaPa LaBas's, or Berbelang's, or even that he "believes" the alternative history he constructs in _Mumbo Jumbo_. Novels put a range of ideas out there, for the reader to sort through and to see in contention with one another, and Reed's novel works primarily as a kind of extended metaphor or allegory more than a "history," though it treats historical subjects allegorically.
DeleteBut I don't know what it would mean to "stir up controversy for its own sake," as if he has NO real interest in these subjects at all. The excerpts Kathyrn presents here show him speaking in a more direct, less "literary" way about how he views culture as a site of conflict and contention, and Reed is dead serious about the idea that Western culture has treated non-Western cultures with suspicion, condescension, and hostility. The novel might not seriously propose the existence of an actual secret society on the scale of the Wallflower Order, but he seems quite serious with the suggestion that there *may as well be* such a society, as it would be as good an explanation as any for the real conditions he addresses.